That's an interesting idea, although the topcase wall is pretty thin along the side. Not a lot of depth for a locating tab to slide in securely there
A hinge there feels like it'd add more material than the 1mm of depth we're trying to avoid if we made the hinge interior to the product so you couldn't see it from the bottom
Also it might look a little asymmetric from the bottom if we had screws only on one side but that's a small thing
Technically, someone skilled enough could undo the adhesives and pry it open but I'd say for most people they should assume the batteries are not replaceable in their decision to get one or not
Hey, thanks for the great update. I do strongly dislike products that don't have removeable batteries. It effectively puts a hard expiration date on the product's lifespan, since batteries degrade pretty badly over time and with extended use.
I am curious, does your current design allow for battery replacement *at all*? Will it be doable for the average user? Or will you sacrifice that repairability for the aesthetics? Hoping it's the former, but all the best regardless.
Yeah that makes sense. It would be nice to have repairability if it came for free
For this product, we're making the call to prioritize design over repairability. We did explore the idea but it came with compromises we weren't willing to accept
I'd rather have a product with uncompromising design since battery replacement isn't something I've personally prioritized. Ultimately, hardware design comes down to tradeoffs everywhere
The other option is to use a battery that guarantees 1,000 charge cycles while maintaining at least 80% capacity. This is what Apple does with all its mobile devices and what other manufacturers do with their high-quality devices.
We are aiming for at least 3 months of battery life per charge. Our modeling (basically just power measurements on prototype hardware extrapolated out) show this is reasonable to achieve
But we still need to get measurements on the first iteration of hardware that comes from the production line (targeting ~8/25). So I'll report back with numbers based on more accurate testing when I have them
lets goo, I AM INTRESTEDDDDDDDDDD;
Atleast have a landing page or somethingg pls
To prevent the extra 1mm, would a locating tab or a sort of hinge work for the thinner end, and then have screws only on the thicker end?
That's an interesting idea, although the topcase wall is pretty thin along the side. Not a lot of depth for a locating tab to slide in securely there
A hinge there feels like it'd add more material than the 1mm of depth we're trying to avoid if we made the hinge interior to the product so you couldn't see it from the bottom
Also it might look a little asymmetric from the bottom if we had screws only on one side but that's a small thing
Looking forward to it!
I dont care
- 1mm thicker
- opened or covered screw
But I do care
- How about weight? It makes more heavier or not changed?
It would weigh more. We would’ve had to add a thin layer of material to shield the internals and give the screws something to screw into
Is battery replacement something that would require a spudger? Or is this more of a “everything is glued shut” type of product?
I would strongly prefer replaceable batteries. Even if they take a bit of finagling.
Technically, someone skilled enough could undo the adhesives and pry it open but I'd say for most people they should assume the batteries are not replaceable in their decision to get one or not
Hey, thanks for the great update. I do strongly dislike products that don't have removeable batteries. It effectively puts a hard expiration date on the product's lifespan, since batteries degrade pretty badly over time and with extended use.
I am curious, does your current design allow for battery replacement *at all*? Will it be doable for the average user? Or will you sacrifice that repairability for the aesthetics? Hoping it's the former, but all the best regardless.
Yeah that makes sense. It would be nice to have repairability if it came for free
For this product, we're making the call to prioritize design over repairability. We did explore the idea but it came with compromises we weren't willing to accept
I'd rather have a product with uncompromising design since battery replacement isn't something I've personally prioritized. Ultimately, hardware design comes down to tradeoffs everywhere
The other option is to use a battery that guarantees 1,000 charge cycles while maintaining at least 80% capacity. This is what Apple does with all its mobile devices and what other manufacturers do with their high-quality devices.
We did look into that but unfortunately that applies only to smartphones and tablets that are sufficiently waterproof
What is the expected lifetime of the battery used in the keyboard?
We are aiming for at least 3 months of battery life per charge. Our modeling (basically just power measurements on prototype hardware extrapolated out) show this is reasonable to achieve
But we still need to get measurements on the first iteration of hardware that comes from the production line (targeting ~8/25). So I'll report back with numbers based on more accurate testing when I have them